Ray Township
Planning Commission
Meeting Minutes
June 8, 2010
7:30 p.m.
1.
Call to Order – Pledge of Allegiance – Roll Call
The Monthly Meeting of the Ray
Township Planning Commission for June 8, 2010 was called to order at 7:30 p.m. by Chairman Strauchman.
The Pledge of Allegiance was
recited.
Roll Call as follows:
Present: Ebert, Banach,
Zoccola, Penzien, Hancock, Tipsword, Strauchman
Absent: None
Also
Present: Chris McLeod of Community Planning and Management
Cathy Cichecki, Planning and Zoning Administrator
2.
Approval of Minutes – May 11, 2010
MOTION: TIPSWORD SUPPORT:
BANACH
MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES
OF THE MAY 11, 2010 PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES AS
PRESENTED. ALL AYES. MOTION CARRIED.
3. Approval
of Agenda
a. Add
to Item #6 Old Business – item a: Sign Ordinance
MOTION: TIPSWORD SUPPORT:
HANCOCK
MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA
FOR THE JUNE 8, 2010 PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING AS PRESENTED.
ALL AYES. MOTION
CARRIED.
4.
Scheduled Public Hearings
5. New Business- None
- Old Business
A. Sign Ordinance
Members discussed the sign
ordinance that was sent back from the Board of Trustees. The Board of Trustees
asked the Planning Commission to discuss the color restriction on the ordinance
amendment.
Planning Commission Members
discussed the sign ordinance amendment in relation to:
1. What
the intent of this change was meant to accomplish
2. Where
is the proper place to limit the controls
3. Distractions
created by flashing, multi-color signs
4. Available
studies on the impact of these signs on drivers (There is no conclusive
evidence one way or another.)
5. Typically
in court cases, the decision has been that once you have allowed this type of
sign into a community you have lost your right to say that they cause a
distraction. This is normally the case for like signs, so you can argue
against color signs but not amber signs.
6. The
courts will normally agree with the fact that you have the right to regulate
what you do on your side of the road. Township can put up limitations for the
safety of those in the township.
7. In
reference to the color issue, most ordinances are drafted as red/amber or full
color, because that is where the break point is in the pricing of the signs.
There is a standard in the industry with a one color sign level and a
multi-color sign level. The higher the price the more the sign will do. You
get more graphics when you get full color but you also pay for it.
8. Color
is not the real distraction; movement is the distraction. Control of the
movement of the signs is covered in this document.
9. The
MDOT (Michigan Department of Transportation) is currently doing a study of
these types of signs. We have the right to look at the study when it comes out
and if there are any conclusions that would make us re-think our decisions; we
can go back and look at the ordinance again.
10. This change was made so that
the new sign that was allowed at 32 Mile and Romeo Plank would fit the
ordinance. The change states amber because that is what the sign is.
11. It is possible to have the
ordinance say that the sign be one color, if someone wants to buy a higher end
sign they can. The more graphic signs have much more brilliance in the color.
MOTION: ZOCCOLA SUPPORT:
PENZIEN
MOTION TO AMEND THE SIGN
ORDINANCE TO ALLOW SIGNS TO BE ONE COLOR.
Planning Commission members
discussed the motion as presented.
Roll Call Vote:
Yes: Zoccola, Penzien
No: Hancock, Banach, Ebert, Tipsword,
Strauchman
Discussion followed:
a. Should
signs only be allowed in one color, amber or red?
b. One
color lights with the background light to be on or off.
c. Would
it be easier to change the ordinance when necessary?
d. Without
this amendment being passed a sign can go up anywhere in the township and in
any color combination.
e. Many
factors have to be taken into account when deciding to allow these types of
signs: 1) do you want those next to a single family home, 2) area traffic, 3)
the neighborhood, 4) zoning
f.
What was the desire of the Board of Trustees?
g. Was
size an issue?
h. Based
on the sign industry information that we have, the signs come either with one
color or multi-color capabilities.
i.
If our decision is to allow for any color lights on these signs and
someone upgrades to the type of sign that has multi-color capabilities, they
will eventually say I have features available that I can not use. It will then
become an enforcement issue because they will start to use those additional
features because they have them.
MOTION: TIPSWORD SUPPORT:
HANCOCK
MOTION TO SEND THE ORDINANCE
AMENDMENT WITH THE CHANGE OF ALLOWING ONE COLOR RATHER THAN
AMBER ONLY BACK TO THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES WITH A WRITTEN NOTE OF EXPLANATION.
ROLL CALL VOTE:
YES: Tipsword, Hancock, Penzien,
Zoccola, Ebert, Banach, Strauchman
NO: None
ABSENT:
None
MOTION
CARRIED.
- Presentation
- Sova-Drive in at Brookside Storage – No one present
- St. John Lutheran Church
Present representing St. John Lutheran
Church in reference to the Landscape Plan were:
- Ken Keller, Trustee at St. John Lutheran Church
- Charlie Bohm, Trustee at St. John Lutheran Church
Ken Keller explained that there
are several existing plans for landscaping at the church. The number of trees
called for on these plans ranges from 62 – 153 trees, with 89 being the medium
number and the plan that was previously approved by the Planning Commission.
The purpose of this presentation is to get some landscaping options that can be
taken back to the Church Council. Topics of discussion included:
a. On
the west end of the parking lot, they would like the option not to do a double
row of trees because there are mature trees at the rear boundary of the
property.
b. On
the south end of property: a single row of trees is requested because the
future building plans of the church show the parking lot expanding in that
area, which would mean that the double row of trees would need to be cut
down. The Church would like the option of a single row of trees in that area.
c. The
number of trees required along North Avenue is a concern because when they
mature the church may not be visible from the road.
d. Concerned
with maintenance for double row of mature trees. If the double row of trees
could be put 30 feet on center instead of 20 feet on center it would be much
easier to mow around them.
e. Would
like to plant spruce trees instead of White Pines and Australian Pines because
the pines tend to die from the bottom up.
f.
When grading is done, if the berm is large enough to support two trees
they will be planted there instead of planting them in the clay that exists in
the other areas of the property.
Planning Commission members
discussed the following points:
a. The
Planning Commission only has control over the perimeter trees and the trees at
the roadway.
b. The
ordinance requires 25 trees along the front the plan shows seven. One
point needs to be made: the ordinance calls for trees along the property line;
the original plan was for 1/4 - 1/3 of the trees that would be required if the
property line were maintained as the ordinance states.
c. Visibility
along North Avenue.
d. Allowing
a single line in the back which would allow for the extension of the double
tree line to allow for expansion of the parking lot.
e. Natural
groupings of trees is allowed as long as the nature of the ordinance is met.
f.
Requirements of the new Master Plan vs. the requirements of the old
Master Plan.
g. The
way the ordinance reads now the property to the north is planned commercial but
is residential now and has not been rezoned.
h. Key
is to find out whose property the mature trees on the back of the property are
actually on. If the trees are on the church line and they provide screening
would there be a problem with a single line on the west property.
Charlie Bohm representing St. John
Lutheran Church summed up the wishes of the church by stating that they would
plant a double row of trees all the way around, planted 30 foot on center and
that there would be seven trees across the North Avenue frontage. He further
stated that additional trees would be planted around the pond and at the
corners of the parking lot.
Chairman Strauchman instructed
Bohm and Keller of St. John Lutheran Church that this is a presentation and no
approval is given at this time. The Church must submit a site plan to the
Planning Commission for final approval. Along with the site plan, the church
should also submit pictures of the trees across the back lot line to enable the
Planning Commission to determine if they provide sufficient screening per the
ordinance.
- Report of the Township Board Representative-
a. June 1, 2010 – sign ordinance revision previously discussed.
- Report of the Zoning Board of Appeals Representative-None
- Correspondence
- CPM – Motions
Planning Commission members were
given sample motions and what points need to be included in them.
11. Public Comments
None
Chris McLeod explained to Planning
Commission members that with the adoption of the
Medical Marijuana issue,
municipalities need to look at adopting an ordinance to regulate
caregivers and compassion
centers. He further stated that any ordinance drafted now will have
to be revisited because there is
so little guidance on the subject at this point.
Chairman Strauchman asked that the
Planning Commission be able to review any sample
ordinances that may be available to
see the various options.
McLeod will bring samples to the
next meeting.
12. Adjournment
MOTION: Ebert SUPPORT:
Zoccola
MOTION TO ADJOURN THE June 8, 2010 MEETING OF THE RAY TOWNSHIP PLANNING
COMMISSION AT 9:00 P.M. ALL AYES. MOTION CARRIED.
__________________________ ___________________________ ________
Alvin Strauchman, Chairman Dennis
Tipsword, Secretary Date
Respectfully
submitted,
LuAnne
Kandell, Recording Secretary